ChuckerCanuck 2.0

If at first you don't succeed, bring up Abortion!
 

Well... till those old people have to depend on a shrinking taxbase of young workers...
 

I wish to talk about death today.
I wish to talk about the death of the old people who eat meat tainted by Conservatives daring to run our country.
I wish to talk about the death of babies but only insofar as it is onlyright and noble that we cause that death.
That is what I wish.
I have a death wish.
 

Wow, Dion is going negative and dirty early. The Liberals are trying anything to divert attention from their Green Shaft.

Unborn victims have nothing to do with abortions but the Liberals are playing to the rabid feminist special interest group.
 

What a spineless wretch, eh?

You can always count on the Liberals to dive headfirst into the gutter when the going gets...well, even going.
 

i suspect harper's position on abortion would be similar to my own. that is, that there is a legal right for women to terminate pregnancy, but that there are reasonable limits relating to fetal development. and, that it is distasteful and unfortunate, but not criminal. Andrew Coyne has a good article on Canada's lack of abortion law, and how it was never a decision to have no law, it's just how it has turned out. both sides of this debate have killed the dialogue by branding each other baby killers or misogynists.
 

both sides of this debate have killed the dialogue by branding each other baby killers or misogynists.

Find me truer words ever spoken and I'll send you fifty bucks cash.
 

Find me a better response to a group of bloggers comments about abortion from Jason Bo Gren...and I'll send you 50 bucks cash!!
billg
 

Let's not forget immigation where the liberals have a powerful base....The more abortions Canada can rack up ,the higher levels of immigration are required.For example,Canada used to produce gorgeous home grown strippers but thanks to Dr.Mort. and free for all abortion,the Liberals had to start importing strippers to meet growing[hic] canadian needs.Maybe Stephane has a hankering for the good ole days of"danse a $ 5.00 "
 

Wow, Liberals usually play the abortion card at the end of an election when they are desperate.

I've never seen them so desperate that they play it before it's even called.

Harper threatening an election must have them collectively pooping their drawers. It's got Cherniyuck all confuzzled.
 

I agree... this is a real stretch play this early in the festivities. I'd have expected this sometime in the 2nd week of a campaign.
 

Heads up! Election on the way soon...

Good move! The Libs are, despite all bluster to the contrary, nowhere close to being ready.

Time to put the boots to 'em until they squeal!
 

Eye roll.

Beneath you, Chucker.
 

Why the Conservatives are so obsessed with the contents of my innards is really beyond me.
 

Up Next On ChuckerVision!!!11!!1
God Save the Tapeworms!
 

You are right. I will make up for it with a post about how creepy old guys are.
 

How did this even come up?? Dion looks like my cat does when it drags in some interesting "tid bit" from beyond the pale. Citizen Dion has been saying that this election would be about " fear and hope" hmmm sounds Obamish don't it? seems to me he hoping we won't notice the stink from the "green stuff" he has been rolling in and "fear" well if I was him I would be very afraid of an election right now, the Liberanos are broke, being sued x 2 I think he is gonna have a big can of "whup ass " poured all over him. Cheers
Bubba
 

The headline from the link Chucker provided:
"Dion asks Harper to state his views on abortion."

Sheena wonders:
"Why the Conservatives are so obsessed with the contents of my innards is really beyond me."

I am puzzled: has Dion (the guy in the headline) become a Conservative?
 

Nice try, Gabby. Thanks for playing.

Are you up to speed on some of the cranked up hyperbole courtesy of some of the more wingnut fetus fetishists of the Blogging Tories?

The behaviour has been disgusting. Sheena is no fan of Dion, but at least the totalitarian jackbooted woman-bullying elements are being called on the table.

The politicization of this topic, along with conservation and energy use policies are beneath contempt on both sides.
 

I thought this was the era of new politics?

I guess the new era has been delayed slightly. Just like most Air Canada flights.
 

"The politicization of this topic, along with conservation and energy use policies are beneath contempt on both sides."

then you should join me in mocking the politicization of it. You should join me in parodying the idea that this topic should be up for discussion.

what happens in some corner of cyberspace ain't my problem.

but trying to bring this discussion to the national table when we have relative quiet on this front is disgusting.

That is the point of my post.
 

Abortion is always a nice "cool" button for the liberals. They believe they can always excite the base who consider the Conservatives a threat. And it's not like they gave to give the issue any deeper thought.
 

but trying to bring this discussion to the national table when we have relative quiet on this front is disgusting.

That is the point of my post.

It ain't quiet, Chucker. There is a whopping amount of borderline fraudent bullshit activity lobbying on the anti-Morgentaler order of canada front - much of it from the blog roll you belong to. It is shameful, and dishonest.
 

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there's a lot of activity on the "no abortions ever side" because the "abortions whenever wherever" side has stuck a big stick in the eyes of their opponents.. after they have achieved victory on the policy side. or at least they, and their opponents, helped make the discussion so poison as to achieve a stalemate in their advantage. i suspect the majority of canadians are of a varying middle ground, like myself. i think dion had noticed that the noise of morgantaler's appointment has died down considerably in the mainstream media, where 90% of normal people get their information. to me its an attempt to stretch the cycle on this story, and a poor one at that. i think its fair for chuck to lampoon dion for it. he's the only national leader who is talking about it.

sheena, i consider myself a classical liberal, or what most canadian conservatives (not the base but likely the majority) should be classified, and i promise you i am not the least bit concerned with the contents of your innards. unless they contain the contents of my outards. so im closer to your position on the policy side (i'm guessing), but i don't find harper, or any of those pro-life organizations, to be of any real threat to choice. its a death rattle, for both sides. this debate is dead for most canadians, and the result is no result.
 

I'm going to write Charles McVety tonight about the neglected rights of the tapeworm soul that are targets of the anti-lifers.

Expecially for the poor people who can only afford Maple Leaf shaved hams and not the good stuff like what they serve at hospitals and resthomes.

Oh the Huge Manatee!! But Thank Almighty Christ Protector of Zygots for ensuring non regulation of mass slaughtered livestock who drown in their own shit because its cheaper than bullets.
 

Vote New Government.
Same as the Old Government, but no one is really listening, so fuck off and mind your own beeswax, Canadian public.
 

Wow! Sheena's rockin today! Makes her hotter than ever.
Turns me on!
But to the topic at hand..... fuck Stephany Dion. And it should be easy to do that because he's missing a prick and a set of balls. He ain't Stephane or Steve or Juicy, he's a woman. Only women actually care about abortion. Men couldn't care less, unless you count the men who don't know if they are men OR women.Then you get the Jesus freaks who figger they'll get more tail by appearinf to be sensitive. More tail means more pregancies means more abortions and the cycle continues. What makes me sick isn't abortions , it's the number of deadfuck Canadians who will support such a ball-less party that has no money, no principles, no platform (except trough feeding) and no leaders!
 

"Feed the Fetii Maple Leaf Shaved Ham Lunchboxes"

New Morgentaler stealth tactics... way more effective than RU 486.


Fuck off Old Squid. I'm busy this weekend. But thanks for acknowledging the hotness within me.
 

I haven't said anything about Morgentaler. Not a word. That's not an accident.
 

Wow. Morgentaler and "not an accident" in the same sentence, eh? sounds horrifically irresponsible and leftish disregard for life to me.
 

oh, now who's reducing things to a simplistic left/right steretype?

anyway, I promise to make it up to you, gallant warrior woman.
 

I ain't left. I ain't right. I will likely not vote for the nth consecutive time since I left Quebec - the last time my vote actually meant something.

BTs are far and away shit heads. I equally detest those who adopt the Progressive bullshit label

This is why I am pissed and disappointed that you, Chucker, one of the few funny witty political bloggers have played this shiteous divisive political card.
 

ahhh, Sheena, I can't pull punches to keep everyone happy. Ultimately, if I haven't pissed off each person at least once, I haven't been true to myself.
 

I knew we were soul-mates, Chucker.

Now how about a little less uterus inspection and a little more old man stink diatribes, eh? For your fans...
 

Hey Sheena,

Didn't Dion's wife say debating abortion is the new terrorism. I guess that makes Stephie a Terrorist. Why not his party has been supporting it for years - Coderre/Hezbollah - Chretien/Kadr - Liberals vs Israel at UN - Tamil Tigers,...I could go on.

Nice blog Chuck.
 

“Dion prods Harper on abortion stance” at National Post

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=740247

It is very interesting that Stéphane Dion would volunteer to start public discussion on abortion issue considering that not so long ago his wife Janine Krieber, has warned Canadians of possibility of terrorist acts by pro-abortion movement.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08061807.html

As far as we know Stéphane Dion and his wife are unable to conceive a child on their own and this is why they opted to adopt a Peruvian girl.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/liberals/dion.html

“Stéphane himself does not appear to be particularly religious. He only married his wife, political scientist Janine Krieber, so they could adopt a daughter, Jeanne, from Catholic Peru in 1988. Before that the two had lived together, like so many Quebecers of their generation, for almost 10 years — from when they were students at Laval,..”

It is still unclear if this infertility issue in Dion's family is caused by the fact that Stéphane Dion has no balls (well established fact of current political life in Canada) or is it because his wife Janine Krieber had way too many botched abortions performed by Dr. Henry Morgentaler at his Montreal abortion clinic.

If the second possibility is the case than it would make perfect sense that Stéphane Dion prompted by his wife would make an attempt to strangle Dr. Henry Morgentaler and his supporters at the first opportunity he ever got.

I somehow like the idea of Dion tightening the noose around Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin’s neck. Considering controversy surrounding nomination of Dr. Henry Morgentaler to the Order of Canada and considering the fact that Chief Justice is already back pedalling on this issue, Dion’s call on Harper to state his position on abortion is nothing short of Dion shooting himself in a foot. Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin and Governor General of Canada Michaelle Jean are currently the two highest ranking Liberals on government payroll. Both are mired in Morgentaler controvery, so why is Dion pushing on abortion button ???
 

Colby Cosh makes sense today. Be nice of more of the commenters did.

Friday's National Post Column here
 

I am going to zip my mouth on this one.

Not saying a thing. Nothing...
 

I am pissed and disappointed that you, Chucker, one of the few funny witty political bloggers have played this shiteous divisive political card.

Sorry, Sheena, but it seems to me that it is the leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition that played this undoubtedly shiteous and divisive political card. Reacting to the cards on the table is hardly Chucker's fault. I expect Steffie hopes to tar the Tories with the "anti-abortion" brush (you, for just one example, have taken it hook, line, and sinker) while avoiding any examination of the views of some of his own MPs. We will see how successful he is, but like almost everything he has tried, I expect this to blow up in his face.
 

deaner scores - what a surprise.

an anti-virus is a virus, right?

our political discourse
needs a transfusion -

tom waits would tell us to shoot it full of wine.
 

joanne,

I doubt very much that anyone in any way referred to you as you have been the model of civil, passionate discourse on the issue of abortion.

but there are folks who go overboard, perhaps, in villifyng the opposition on such a big issue.

As Barak Obama said, "when life begins is above my pay grade" --

a good line in a class room, but if you take that to its logical conclusion,

he is saying he doesn't know when life begins, it may begin at conception.

No one can argue the legitimacy of a person, like you, Joanne, who decides that it would be prudent to assume then, life begins at conception and that the thing inside a woman's body is not, "her innards".

To voice that position the way you have is not simply permissible but necessary and worth congratulations.
 

...To voice that position the way you have is not simply permissible but necessary and worth congratulations.

Thanks, Chucker. I appreciate that.

My personal feelings on the matter are that although I myself may feel that life begins at conception, medical viability may be the tipping point that we could possibly all agree on (I hope).

Having said that, Dion's argument about Ken Epp's bill is disingenuous because abortion is specifically excluded, and the focus of the bill is to protect a woman's right to choose to continue her pregnancy and thereby lessen her vulnerability to violence.