Sunday, July 06, 2008
"Damaged"
Hey Alberta, your stinky reputation is dragging us all down. You're the family embarassment, if you need it told bluntly. And yesterday, Stephane Dion decided to put it bluntly.
Last year, Stephane Dion declared the world would be destroyed if nothing was done by the end of the year. Then he did everything necessary to ensure that nothing would be done.
Everday, Stephane Dion talks up how polite he is with almost palpable hostility. Diagnosing his opponents as missing a social conscience is a good example of that politeness at work.
In June, Stephane Dion launched a carbon tax which managed to accomplish a few things:
1. The language of the sales pitch is unmistakably totalitarian in tone and impulse. It calls on Canadians to unify towards a common-good, single goal. Half-baked idiocy or a slight reveal on a hidden agenda of global government a la classic Marx? You decide.
2. The carbon tax has been called "Green Shift" to make is sound sweet but this name was knowingly taken from an actual consultancy out of Toronto. And, Stephane Dion happily steam rolls over the company and its founder's rights to benefit his marketing purposes.
3. The plan itself is not even a nasty little new tax. That in itself would have been much more noble. Instead its a complete reengineering of society - handicapping business, crippling consumers - in favor of a set of Liberal client groups. And, most galling, the re-engineering is to be done under a banner of "revenue neutrality".
This brief summary puts Stephane Dion's Alberta comments - insulting, unparalleled and totally false - in a context. Is Stephane Dion, along with surrogates like Garth Turner, trying to return Canada to a condition of post-Meech Lake in order to take partisan advantage of a national unity crisis? It is hard to see how he is not doing so.
He will fail because I suspect the free ride - yes, Mr. Dion, bumps and all, the ride was free - from the media. His agenda for the country is a monster-making bit of plastic surgery with global implications as he drifts evermore towards the globalized anti-globalization movement that is nothing less than neo-marxism. The media will be unable to avoid calling it like it is - because that's what they do. Stephane Dion may be nice, but he ain't good.
Last year, Stephane Dion declared the world would be destroyed if nothing was done by the end of the year. Then he did everything necessary to ensure that nothing would be done.
Everday, Stephane Dion talks up how polite he is with almost palpable hostility. Diagnosing his opponents as missing a social conscience is a good example of that politeness at work.
In June, Stephane Dion launched a carbon tax which managed to accomplish a few things:
1. The language of the sales pitch is unmistakably totalitarian in tone and impulse. It calls on Canadians to unify towards a common-good, single goal. Half-baked idiocy or a slight reveal on a hidden agenda of global government a la classic Marx? You decide.
2. The carbon tax has been called "Green Shift" to make is sound sweet but this name was knowingly taken from an actual consultancy out of Toronto. And, Stephane Dion happily steam rolls over the company and its founder's rights to benefit his marketing purposes.
3. The plan itself is not even a nasty little new tax. That in itself would have been much more noble. Instead its a complete reengineering of society - handicapping business, crippling consumers - in favor of a set of Liberal client groups. And, most galling, the re-engineering is to be done under a banner of "revenue neutrality".
This brief summary puts Stephane Dion's Alberta comments - insulting, unparalleled and totally false - in a context. Is Stephane Dion, along with surrogates like Garth Turner, trying to return Canada to a condition of post-Meech Lake in order to take partisan advantage of a national unity crisis? It is hard to see how he is not doing so.
He will fail because I suspect the free ride - yes, Mr. Dion, bumps and all, the ride was free - from the media. His agenda for the country is a monster-making bit of plastic surgery with global implications as he drifts evermore towards the globalized anti-globalization movement that is nothing less than neo-marxism. The media will be unable to avoid calling it like it is - because that's what they do. Stephane Dion may be nice, but he ain't good.
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Basically, it amounts to a $7 billion tax on Alberta's oil industry, which will then be used to buy votes in the east, primarily Ontario.
Period, end of story.
As one journalist put it, makes the NEP look like a parking ticket.
Look for Albertans to once again be marginalized as "greedy" bastards who don't give a shit about the rest of the country...a forumla that has served Libs well for many decades.
Period, end of story.
As one journalist put it, makes the NEP look like a parking ticket.
Look for Albertans to once again be marginalized as "greedy" bastards who don't give a shit about the rest of the country...a forumla that has served Libs well for many decades.
# posted by 
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:11:00 AM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:11:00 AM
Springer... there's the hitch, because by the numbers, it will actually be substantially more than 7 billion, and not just from Alberta.
Think about it... I'm an oil producer, getting whacked $40 bucks per ton, so I pass that along...
I'm a bottler, having to bear up with an additional $40 bucks per whatever, so I pass that along...
I'm a grocery store, selling pop, but pop with a new buried cost of $40 per however many liters, so I pass it along...
I'm a consumer, paying a higher cost for pop so I can cover the other three above me because they are all trying to recoup the $40, and... wait a minute, I have to pay GST on an additional $40 per ton of CO2...
Yep, I'd say the "Green Shift" is going to make a heck of a lot more than $15 billion for the Libs.
In fact, I've seen some numbers bandied about ranging in the high $70 to $80 billion in new GST revenue.
Gotta love that revenue neutral plan of Dions...
Didn't he say he's going to put the 2 points back on the GST as well?
Think about it... I'm an oil producer, getting whacked $40 bucks per ton, so I pass that along...
I'm a bottler, having to bear up with an additional $40 bucks per whatever, so I pass that along...
I'm a grocery store, selling pop, but pop with a new buried cost of $40 per however many liters, so I pass it along...
I'm a consumer, paying a higher cost for pop so I can cover the other three above me because they are all trying to recoup the $40, and... wait a minute, I have to pay GST on an additional $40 per ton of CO2...
Yep, I'd say the "Green Shift" is going to make a heck of a lot more than $15 billion for the Libs.
In fact, I've seen some numbers bandied about ranging in the high $70 to $80 billion in new GST revenue.
Gotta love that revenue neutral plan of Dions...
Didn't he say he's going to put the 2 points back on the GST as well?
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:33:00 AM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:33:00 AM
In the first place, the Nutty Professor, posing with a ten gallon hat on his two gallon head, ain't going to get elected. When people across the country start getting hit with the next round of price increases from the utility companies and from their home heating fuel suppliers they won't be much in the mood for any taxes adding to these costs.
Secondly, Steady Eddy Stelmach, Red Tory though he may be, has a caucus filled with Alberta First hawks. These ranks are growing larger every time some Eastern idiot like Garth Turner opens his mouth. With a projected 12 billion surplus Eddy could be pushed into countering any 7 billion tax grab by the Feds by reimbursing industry, business and the average Albertan for the theft. That would still leave 5 billion in the kitty...and that ain't chicken feed. Alberta would still take a financial hit but our economy would keep on truckin'. Any pain imposed on the Alberta treasury would, however, be a one time thing since the rest of the country would soon demand an end to any "green shift" tax if one of the players was out of the game.
Secondly, Steady Eddy Stelmach, Red Tory though he may be, has a caucus filled with Alberta First hawks. These ranks are growing larger every time some Eastern idiot like Garth Turner opens his mouth. With a projected 12 billion surplus Eddy could be pushed into countering any 7 billion tax grab by the Feds by reimbursing industry, business and the average Albertan for the theft. That would still leave 5 billion in the kitty...and that ain't chicken feed. Alberta would still take a financial hit but our economy would keep on truckin'. Any pain imposed on the Alberta treasury would, however, be a one time thing since the rest of the country would soon demand an end to any "green shift" tax if one of the players was out of the game.
All those "greedy" bastards in Alberta, aren't Albertans.
A lot of those greedy bastards collect their 'izzy money' and fly home to the East to spend it.
A lot of those greedy bastards collect their 'izzy money' and fly home to the East to spend it.
Joe Calgary,
And I'm a boozer, so what's DIONs carbon tax gonna cost me?
Guess what I'm gonna say next?
You're right!
Fuck DION!
And I'm a boozer, so what's DIONs carbon tax gonna cost me?
Guess what I'm gonna say next?
You're right!
Fuck DION!
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:50:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:50:00 PM
So, if today's high energy prices are causing a huge shift away from large autos and SUVs, and towards energy conservation, wouldn't you think that the environmentalists would be applauding the associated reduction in emissions? If they have been I sure haven't noticed it. Why isn't Dion applauding it?
The only conclusion from this disconnect is that the profits are going to the 'wrong' people and that the only 'meaningful' reductions are possible through carbon taxes. Even Suzuki says as much. That shows that this whole carbon tax business is about votes and wealth redistribution, and has nothing to do with emissions reductions.
The only conclusion from this disconnect is that the profits are going to the 'wrong' people and that the only 'meaningful' reductions are possible through carbon taxes. Even Suzuki says as much. That shows that this whole carbon tax business is about votes and wealth redistribution, and has nothing to do with emissions reductions.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:35:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:35:00 PM
Same old bitch-fest from Calgarytards.
Stick in a sock it, rednecks.
Stick in a sock it, rednecks.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:23:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:23:00 PM
Calgary-tard,
how often do you ask people to
stick in a sock to it?
(kinda hard to screw that up - or should I say kinda hard to up that screw!)
how often do you ask people to
stick in a sock to it?
(kinda hard to screw that up - or should I say kinda hard to up that screw!)
I regularly go to Oil Sands country and am always amazed at how clear the air is to breath. Yes there is a lot of steam coming from the big plants north of Fort Mac but in most places you would be hard pressed to know you weren't in pristine wilderness.
Last few times I was in Toronto I could hardly breath the smog was so thick. I think that more people should clean up their own mess before accusing someone else.
Last few times I was in Toronto I could hardly breath the smog was so thick. I think that more people should clean up their own mess before accusing someone else.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:48:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:48:00 PM
kinda hard to screw that up - or should I say kinda hard to up that screw!
Gosh, you're right. How illiterate of me.
And here, in front of all the Rhodes scholars who comment at ChuckerCanuck's, of all places.
Gosh, you're right. How illiterate of me.
And here, in front of all the Rhodes scholars who comment at ChuckerCanuck's, of all places.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:52:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:52:00 PM
no Rhodes scholars, I admit. None even clever enough to put Calgary and retard together into one word.
Imagine what you could do with Regina????
Imagine what you could do with Regina????
I'll help the Rhodes scholar get started...take R-e-g-i-n-a and then v-a-g-i-n-a...we're now in Rhodes scholar territory.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:19:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:19:00 PM
Calgarytard must be an Ontario McGuinty supporter. It's hard to imagine a more stupid species. Anyone from Alberta who thinks that Ontario citizens are going to benefit in the long term from any carbon redistribution is almost as crazy as Calgarytard. Ontario's industries have seen margins drop to nothing based on the dollar. New market based energy costs have accelerated closures. A carbon tax will act like the mythical carbon forcing and turn my province into a 3rd world ghetto, the whole province will look like Hamilton, but without the smog since no factories will remain active. My advice to Albertans, screen out immigration applications from Ontario teachers, they are the morons who elected McGuinty. These assholes think that crippling the industrial tax base will never affect them. Calgarytard is probably one of their marxist union leaders, maybe one of Joe Greene's relatives.
None even clever enough to put Calgary and retard together into one word.
That's for sure.
That's for sure.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:26:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:26:00 PM
Oh, stick in a sock it,you slush-bucketing, slavering, dimpleton.
Could be the new ultimate insult around here: 'stick in a sock it'.
I love it.
Could be the new ultimate insult around here: 'stick in a sock it'.
I love it.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:59:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:59:00 PM
I dunno, "totalitarian" seems just as much a stretch here as when people call Harper the same. I don't think it applies.
That said - I don't get the anti-Alberta sentiment you hear from so many of these Shift supporters. Like or dislike the carbon tax plan, Alberta is only supplying a demand.
Joe C. makes a pretty interesting point about the $40 passed on.
I don't think Dion's making case enough to win an election on this Green Shift idea.
That said - I don't get the anti-Alberta sentiment you hear from so many of these Shift supporters. Like or dislike the carbon tax plan, Alberta is only supplying a demand.
Joe C. makes a pretty interesting point about the $40 passed on.
I don't think Dion's making case enough to win an election on this Green Shift idea.
# posted by : Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:55:00 PM
: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:55:00 PM
Jason:
the reference to totalitarianism comes from my post "If it Quacks like a Duck".
So, if you will, what countries are made great by their unity of vision, commonness of purpose and great dreams?
second, in th 20th century, left=wing politics has struggled with the totalitarian strain in their politics. In the progressive era (think Woodrow Wilson) to Mussolini and Hitler to International Communism -- all these political movements are left-wing totalitarianism.
the Woodrow point is interesting because it reminds us that young liberals - oh, like say, I don't know, ummmmm, know any famous young liberals who flirted with Nazism? (Hint, rhymes with "Pludo").
If you are going to introduce a carbon tax, you had better come with damn good proof that the investment in said social re-engineering is worth it:
How many degrees of mean global temperature are Liberals saying their plan will shed?
Its not frivolous to subsume your entire way of living to global warming. Before I do that, I'd like something better than whiny pleas from Hollywood or UN reports written by 2,000 scientists who turn out to be:
not scientists
scientists who disagreed with the study conclusions
and, scientists whose disciplines are so far removed from the problem, they are little more than amateur specialists - like any engineer of B.Sc. would be.
the reference to totalitarianism comes from my post "If it Quacks like a Duck".
So, if you will, what countries are made great by their unity of vision, commonness of purpose and great dreams?
second, in th 20th century, left=wing politics has struggled with the totalitarian strain in their politics. In the progressive era (think Woodrow Wilson) to Mussolini and Hitler to International Communism -- all these political movements are left-wing totalitarianism.
the Woodrow point is interesting because it reminds us that young liberals - oh, like say, I don't know, ummmmm, know any famous young liberals who flirted with Nazism? (Hint, rhymes with "Pludo").
If you are going to introduce a carbon tax, you had better come with damn good proof that the investment in said social re-engineering is worth it:
How many degrees of mean global temperature are Liberals saying their plan will shed?
Its not frivolous to subsume your entire way of living to global warming. Before I do that, I'd like something better than whiny pleas from Hollywood or UN reports written by 2,000 scientists who turn out to be:
not scientists
scientists who disagreed with the study conclusions
and, scientists whose disciplines are so far removed from the problem, they are little more than amateur specialists - like any engineer of B.Sc. would be.
How about a law that money earned by wage earners in Alberta stays in Alberta. Let those eastern families mose west to enjoy the benefits. Would be interesting to see how many businesses go belly up without our money. And, with all the cutbacks in flights etc, these workers can't get home.
There are many towns and cities that insist that their workers live in the area. Make that a family requirement.
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