Wednesday, January 30, 2008
Segregation by any other name....
Toronto's school board - Canada's largest and perhaps its most regressive - has voted to open an Afrocentric school. Don't get them wrong, white schoolchildren will be, hm, tolerated, if they insist on going to this school. But the focus will be black Canadians. The goal is laudible: 40% of black children do not finish high school and they want to reduce that drop-out rate (as one activist said on CBC, "opening school doors will close prison doors" - so there's a promise that this school will cut crime too.)
Does a laudible goal justify this velvet-gloved segregation? Well, before asking that question, you have to show that this segregation does anything to accomplish the goal. Maybe it does. Maybe they had it right 100 years ago when people argued that peace and harmony will be achieved by having blacks live, work and learn among blacks and whites live, work and learn among whites. But if so, this afro-focused school will only delay the discord by a few years.
Afterall, once these black children have been rescued from the destructive environment of Eurocentric education, they will be shoved back into it when they hit university. They will be unable to cope and will drop out - according to the logic of the Toronto school board. If we are to save them from dropping out of college, we had better get on with the business of setting up an afrocentric university so that blacks do not wither on the university vine. But even that move only pushes the inevitable failure off by a few years. Once finished their college education in the cloistered world of an afrocentric university, blacks will be unable to secure meaningful and positive work in the eurocentric economy. In order to protect them from the certain disaster that will befall them, we must set up an afrocentric economy so they can avoid the eurocentric one. That means, black schools, black neighborhoods, black companies, black restaurants, black theatres, black mass transit.... segregation, full stop.
Also, this school will not be able to seat every black child in the Toronto school system. To those left behind by this progressive initiative, Toronto is sending them a message: you're right to quit; you're right to give up and become alienated; the system is set against you; and should that turn you to crime, you're right to do that as well.
Does a laudible goal justify this velvet-gloved segregation? Well, before asking that question, you have to show that this segregation does anything to accomplish the goal. Maybe it does. Maybe they had it right 100 years ago when people argued that peace and harmony will be achieved by having blacks live, work and learn among blacks and whites live, work and learn among whites. But if so, this afro-focused school will only delay the discord by a few years.
Afterall, once these black children have been rescued from the destructive environment of Eurocentric education, they will be shoved back into it when they hit university. They will be unable to cope and will drop out - according to the logic of the Toronto school board. If we are to save them from dropping out of college, we had better get on with the business of setting up an afrocentric university so that blacks do not wither on the university vine. But even that move only pushes the inevitable failure off by a few years. Once finished their college education in the cloistered world of an afrocentric university, blacks will be unable to secure meaningful and positive work in the eurocentric economy. In order to protect them from the certain disaster that will befall them, we must set up an afrocentric economy so they can avoid the eurocentric one. That means, black schools, black neighborhoods, black companies, black restaurants, black theatres, black mass transit.... segregation, full stop.
Also, this school will not be able to seat every black child in the Toronto school system. To those left behind by this progressive initiative, Toronto is sending them a message: you're right to quit; you're right to give up and become alienated; the system is set against you; and should that turn you to crime, you're right to do that as well.
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I was listening to a radio call in show this morning. Out of the 20 callers, one was in suppport. Probably a troll from the school board. All of the callers who identified themselves as black, thought it was absurd and dangerous. A jewish and muslim caller complained of the hypocrisy of the just rejected plan to extend funding to faith schools. Personally I believe that a significant portion of the supporters of this school are people who earn their living off of the race industry, and this is one more opportunity for them to steal from their own people, to enrich themselves.
Geez, we're still dealing with the native school mess and now this?
# posted by 
: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:22:00 PM
: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:22:00 PM
An interesting experiment - can't wait to see what the difference might be in the graduation rate, drop-out rate or casualty rate.
# posted by : Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:59:00 PM
: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:59:00 PM
For me, the real issue isn't so much one of segregation but choice in how one's child is to be educated. That's why I voted for John Tory in the provincial election even though I thought his charter school policy had not been entirely thought out and didn't go far enough in including other choices in education (such as sports, science, or liberal arts focused private schools).
However, I am prepared to accept that Ontario obviously doesn't share my view (I'm used to it by now). Dalton McGuinty ran a campaign against the segregation of schools based on religion insinuating it could lead to tensions in commmunities. How is race-based segregation (even if these schools are open to non-blacks, who would go?) different?
Dalton McGuinty needs to answer this question and if he can't give a satisfactory answer to how race-based education differs from religion-based education then it is incumbent upon him to kill this proposal. Fair is fair.
However, I am prepared to accept that Ontario obviously doesn't share my view (I'm used to it by now). Dalton McGuinty ran a campaign against the segregation of schools based on religion insinuating it could lead to tensions in commmunities. How is race-based segregation (even if these schools are open to non-blacks, who would go?) different?
Dalton McGuinty needs to answer this question and if he can't give a satisfactory answer to how race-based education differs from religion-based education then it is incumbent upon him to kill this proposal. Fair is fair.
# posted by : Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:22:00 PM
: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:22:00 PM
I do not see anything wrong with this experiment in Toronto. Ontario has always been a bit backward with respect for its views on "separate school systems" funded by taxpayers "municipal taxes".
In my view, the municipalities are the "children of the province". The real responsibility for education, and the funding of it, rests squarely with the Province.
There is nothing wrong with the idea of the Province setting education standards, but with enough flexiblity so that groups like the Catholics, or the Muslims, or the Jews, set up their own school systems, WITH government funding, on an equitable basis.
Now with respect to "culture", be that English, French, First Nations and Metis, German, Italian, Ukrainian, or others such as those from the Carribean, or Africa, these should be "full immersion" programs within the school system that has the student populations to justify such programs, and the teacher resources to actually run them properly.
In Canada, the "public school system" is actually the "Christian Protestant" school system, and we should definitely IGNORE the American extremism of eliminating any traces of relgious practices from the public schools. Respect for our own history demands that we pay attention to the traditions and practices established by the Loyalists who basically founded the modern Province of Ontario.
One of the main reasons that kids get into trouble with guns, knives and drugs, is the lack of a cultural "grounding". That in turn is primarily caused by poverty, which means that it can be defeated with such supplementary programs as proposed in Toronto.
Its really high time to sink the "neocon" agenda in education, which all along has been to "dumb down" the population to make workers more ignorant of their rights, and more pliable for a virulent new breed of 19th century capitalists trapped in the 21st century.
These bums don't give a rats ass about kids, values, the rule of law, etc, etc. They are strictly one dimensional people interested ONLY in money. That GREED is the real source of our problems today, from drugs, to dropouts, to bridges that collapse without warning.
We actually need society to revert to its early more progressed positions of simply condemning greed OUTRIGHT. Once that is understood to be morally WRONG, we will start to make progress on these other issues.
The guys who should be paying for these required public programs is "neocons" like Springer, and his sidekicks that frequent to manure pile in Lethbridge, through INCREASED TAXES and PENALTIES IF NECESSARY.
Accumulation of too much money by individuals creates terrorists, just like the world now sees with Osama Bin Laudin, a little rich kid from Saudi Arabia who thought it would be a wonderful idea to use daddy's money to raise an idiological army of his very own.
The Bush Clan, in the Carlyle Group, in the Blackwater Crowd of mercenaries, has done pretty much the same.
And Springer, given half a chance, would do the same.
You see, all "neocons" are "perverts".
In my view, the municipalities are the "children of the province". The real responsibility for education, and the funding of it, rests squarely with the Province.
There is nothing wrong with the idea of the Province setting education standards, but with enough flexiblity so that groups like the Catholics, or the Muslims, or the Jews, set up their own school systems, WITH government funding, on an equitable basis.
Now with respect to "culture", be that English, French, First Nations and Metis, German, Italian, Ukrainian, or others such as those from the Carribean, or Africa, these should be "full immersion" programs within the school system that has the student populations to justify such programs, and the teacher resources to actually run them properly.
In Canada, the "public school system" is actually the "Christian Protestant" school system, and we should definitely IGNORE the American extremism of eliminating any traces of relgious practices from the public schools. Respect for our own history demands that we pay attention to the traditions and practices established by the Loyalists who basically founded the modern Province of Ontario.
One of the main reasons that kids get into trouble with guns, knives and drugs, is the lack of a cultural "grounding". That in turn is primarily caused by poverty, which means that it can be defeated with such supplementary programs as proposed in Toronto.
Its really high time to sink the "neocon" agenda in education, which all along has been to "dumb down" the population to make workers more ignorant of their rights, and more pliable for a virulent new breed of 19th century capitalists trapped in the 21st century.
These bums don't give a rats ass about kids, values, the rule of law, etc, etc. They are strictly one dimensional people interested ONLY in money. That GREED is the real source of our problems today, from drugs, to dropouts, to bridges that collapse without warning.
We actually need society to revert to its early more progressed positions of simply condemning greed OUTRIGHT. Once that is understood to be morally WRONG, we will start to make progress on these other issues.
The guys who should be paying for these required public programs is "neocons" like Springer, and his sidekicks that frequent to manure pile in Lethbridge, through INCREASED TAXES and PENALTIES IF NECESSARY.
Accumulation of too much money by individuals creates terrorists, just like the world now sees with Osama Bin Laudin, a little rich kid from Saudi Arabia who thought it would be a wonderful idea to use daddy's money to raise an idiological army of his very own.
The Bush Clan, in the Carlyle Group, in the Blackwater Crowd of mercenaries, has done pretty much the same.
And Springer, given half a chance, would do the same.
You see, all "neocons" are "perverts".
Joe actually sounded almost coherent in his post, until of course he started to rant on about phantom neocons. 100% of all of the problems he lists are creations of the marxist/socialist democrats and liberals to whom he bends knee. True conservatives are all about choice. In what fantasy world are charter schools anything but a conservative initiative?
Laurie Goldstein asks why our MSM ignored this story outright...
My answer: Because it doesn't, in their collective wisdom, qualify as "news".
Dead soldiers are news.
Everything else is fluff that apparently Canadians don't need to know.
...and people think "governments" run our country, eh?
Silly persons.
My answer: Because it doesn't, in their collective wisdom, qualify as "news".
Dead soldiers are news.
Everything else is fluff that apparently Canadians don't need to know.
...and people think "governments" run our country, eh?
Silly persons.
# posted by : Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:22:00 AM
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:22:00 AM
I like this .
If it weren't for Dion, Canada's unbiased media would have a majority Liberal government in place by now.
If it weren't for Dion, Canada's unbiased media would have a majority Liberal government in place by now.
# posted by : Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:16:00 PM
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:16:00 PM
Great post, Chucker.
On our local news tonight, they were discussing this story and pointed out that the black students who are having problems here are assisted by their community with after-school homework sessions, using the help of retired teachers who volunteer. The whole thing runs on a small grant from the province.
Seems like a better way to handle things, IMO.
On our local news tonight, they were discussing this story and pointed out that the black students who are having problems here are assisted by their community with after-school homework sessions, using the help of retired teachers who volunteer. The whole thing runs on a small grant from the province.
Seems like a better way to handle things, IMO.
Thanks, Joanne.
Gol, agreed, I've got a topic for tonight but this needs to be blasted across the blogosphere in the coming days.
Gol, agreed, I've got a topic for tonight but this needs to be blasted across the blogosphere in the coming days.
Gol, Dion sort of apologized. How is it that the Globe always has the inside track to this stuff?
Mmmmm...
Mmmmm...
But you have to be 16 before you can sign up for "Drive-By-Ed"
# posted by : Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:52:00 PM
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:52:00 PM
Greg said...
"Joe actually sounded almost coherent in his post, until of course he started to rant on about phantom neocons."
They are not phantoms, they are as real as the cruise missiles they drop on civilians, women and children.
In fact, its the "neocons" that have "ordered" this chaos upon the innocents.
Your problem Greg, is that you seem to be having a hard time to stare down evil.
"Joe actually sounded almost coherent in his post, until of course he started to rant on about phantom neocons."
They are not phantoms, they are as real as the cruise missiles they drop on civilians, women and children.
In fact, its the "neocons" that have "ordered" this chaos upon the innocents.
Your problem Greg, is that you seem to be having a hard time to stare down evil.
Liberal imagination at its finest.
Too serious, for Purgatory.
Too silly, for Hell.
Too serious, for Purgatory.
Too silly, for Hell.
# posted by : Friday, February 01, 2008 3:21:00 AM
: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:21:00 AM
"In fact, its the "neocons" that have "ordered" this chaos upon the innocents."
I seem to remember some controversy involving Clinton ordering the firing of a cruise missile into an aspirin factory in Sudan? I didn't know he was a neocon. You learn something new everyday, eh?
I seem to remember some controversy involving Clinton ordering the firing of a cruise missile into an aspirin factory in Sudan? I didn't know he was a neocon. You learn something new everyday, eh?
# posted by : Friday, February 01, 2008 11:26:00 AM
: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:26:00 AM
I heard about a blue dress that proves Clinton's aim isn't that good. I just saw a new Romney ad on Fox News. He says something to teh effect that it's ridiculous for Hillary to claim that her time as first lady prepares her for president. Except he used the term 'internship' to describe her time as first lady. That's gotta hurt.
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